No Dogs or Cats Were Harmed In the Making of This Post-Debate Podcast

Leah Feiger: Proper. Clearly, the one which I believe a minimum of caught our consideration probably the most within the WIRED politics Slack room as we have been watching in disbelief was the conspiracy and lie that Haitian immigrants have been illegally crossing the border into the US and tenting out and stealing and consuming individuals’s canines, cats, and pets.

Donald Trump [Archival audio]: They’re consuming the canines. The folks that got here in, they’re consuming the cats, they’re consuming the pets of the folks that stay there.

Leah Feiger: This isn’t occurring. That is by no means occurring, however this was a speaking level that has been effervescent up for the final 36 hours. JD Vance has been including gas to the fireplace. He has been tweeting about it. Congress. This has been throughout. Trump acquired into it within the debate. That was wild, you guys. That was so wild. It felt like a fever dream.

Makena Kelly: The distinction between the way it performed out on-line forward of the controversy and the way it was obtained when Trump really stated it, was wild. As a result of while you have a look at on-line, when individuals have been discussing all this conspiracy in regards to the cats and consuming them and et cetera, all that, for probably the most half, it was identical to a joke. It appeared prefer it was principally foolish amongst a number of these creators that have been posting about it. Then simply to see it taken so significantly and actually on the controversy stage with Trump, I believe was the change of perspective that made every part like, what the heck is he doing?

Tim Marchman: Yeah, I’ve a conspiracy idea about this, which is that Trump was briefed to allude to it, however steer clear of it. As a result of very early in his first assertion, he talked about Springfield, Ohio, very pointedly the place the conspiracy idea says that is occurring. He seemed very smug and self-satisfied as he stated that. My base, the people who find themselves on fact social—

Leah Feiger: They will know.

Tim Marchman: … they know what is going on on in Springfield. However he did not say something. Then he really began speaking about it after Harris had baited him by mentioning the individuals left his rallies early, that they have been interminable and boring and repetitive. He began visibly getting fairly offended and he simply blurts out, he is speaking about how horrible the financial system is and the way horrible post-apocalyptic America is, and he says, “In Springfield,” he cannot carry himself to say it. He says in Springfield, after which he simply says, “They’re consuming cats. They’re consuming canines.” It is so lurid and ridiculous. Then the factor he does after that’s, he virtually meekly says, “The individuals on the tv stated their canine was taken for meals.” Simply the just about childlike tone of it. It was actually this unimaginable second. I actually acquired the impression that he knew he wasn’t presupposed to be speaking about this, I assume.

Leah Feiger: I believe you are proper. To me, it did not really come off as infantile although. It got here off because the grandparent or aged relative that you simply’re like, Grandma flip off Fox Information. That is not true. That is not appropriate. He felt very previous in that second. He was rambling, he was unsure. I assume my query right here although is, with all these conspiracies he introduced up once more, like he did within the June debate with Biden, that the Democrats help abortion after 9 months, which is unequivocally not true. There have been simply truthfully so many to even get into and listing. My query is, does it matter? The web was taking a lap, the liberal web was thrilled. Pundits on CNN and MSNBC have been like, “This was wild. Harris trounced him, et cetera, et cetera.” I do not know. This race just isn’t really about who’s extra eloquent or who can inform the reality higher or extra, and that feels a little bit bit naive at this level. It is really about who can mobilize their base. The query goes to be if Trump efficiently mobilized his base together with his litany of conspiracies tonight. Was he convincing?

Shopping cart